“A forerunner of the Antichrist, with his troops gathered from several nations, will fight against the true Christ, the only Savior of the world. He will shed much blood and will want to annihilate the worship of God to make himself be looked upon as a God." Our Lady Of La Salette
“Anthony Perlas (Anthony Tridentine) arrived in los Angeles before Lent, this year. He remained a few months and then moved to Chicago. He was a recent convert from atheism, quite new to the Latin Mass and we taught him how to serve. He asked me if I would be willing to join him with an online Latin Rosary that he broadcasted on Wednesdays during Lent. I was happy to participate in that good cause. He also mentioned interest in applying to the seminary.
Before I met him, he had been entrusted with the care of the “Latin Mass Society” at Belmont Abbey College. This was a campus organization. It is my understanding that Anthony subsequently appropriated himself of the group, and kept it as his own after graduating and leaving the College.
One thing I repeatedly noticed about Anthony is that he does not take advice. While he claims to have a “spiritual director” that he allegedly consults, he never tells anyone who this spiritual director is. When people started wondering if it was I, it made me realize that he probably hasn’t got one.
At any rate, what began as a fetish for chapel veils has deteriorated to ever – reaching new lows, including full nudity, blasphemies against Our Blessed Mother, heretical content, sacrilegious posts, as well as quotes from Hitler.
I have refrained until now from posting a public statement, because we are all trying to talk sense to Anthony, and he has disregarded, unfriended, and ignored every outreach. I gave him time to consider my advice to no avail.
I know a few young ladies who helped him with photos. They thought they were helping a good cause. When they asked him, as I also asked, to have our names removed from his sites, we all got the same response: “Absolutely! But I am very busy right now and will remove it later.” – That “later” never happens, and he has not removed the content related to me, or the FSSP, or of these young ladies.
I am obliged to give up trying to talk sense to him. I disassociate myself in any way from his corrupt websites. The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter has nothing to do with him, and he is not a member in any manner. Furthermore, the young ladies whose images appear on his sites should not be accomplices, because it is unclear who has requested that such content be removed, or what has been photo shopped.
Anthony has no firm theological formation, and has no authority to speak on behalf of the Latin Mass or the Latin Mass community. The content on his sites have no approval of the FSSP, or any other community related to the Extraordinary Form of the Mass.
Finally, I strongly encourage parents to forbid their children to friend him on Facebook or follow him on other social media. His sites are perverse and have nothing to do with the Latin Mass. I encourage young ladies not to be involved with him or agree to be his “models”. This would not be helping, but rather of detriment to spread of the Extraordinary Form.
Let us all pray for the salvation of his soul, and that the content that he has posted be removed so as not to continue this mockery of the Sacred.”
Michael Voris (or Gary as his birth certificate & I like to call him) & his Church Militant hired a filipino neo-nazi and purveyor of smut - the relationship did not last more than a month.
Who is Perlas? According to the man who plays with fire Steve Skojec of 1P5 fame:
Anthony Perlas. Perlas runs a website called the Latin Mass Society. His work included both photos and videos, and featured attractive young women wearing chapel veils, all shot in a contemporary style that showed a talent and understanding of the craft.
Perlas is a little strange to say the least - his political views are Nationalist and he makes a living off of soft porn. His Latin Mass Society is certainly not legit:
The Latin Mass Society never runs from their enemies. It is here that we shall make our stand until our last dying breathe. All the nations of the earth shall see the power and glory of the Seroptia. There is no creation more powerful than the highest of all angels whom we possess. Modeling and Catholicism shall be infused into one flawless medium. I hereby place my hand unto the Great Seal of Seroptia and authorize and establish hedge protection on Jenelle and all our models and render her works as good in Jesus’s name. All negativity shall be returned to where they came from and you are bounded by the Great Seal of Seroptia with the intercession of the Blessed Mary Ever A Virgin. The saints command you to obey. Father commands you to obey. Our lady commands you to obey. Our models are now wrapped in her mantle and as her property. The Holy Ghost shall bring warmth with its tender loving presence and thou shall be discorded and unhappy you envious enemy. Kneel and be crushed by the heel of the Immaculate Virgin foul creature and haters who blaspheme Gods precious Angels who are meant to know, love and serve Him and who seek Him yet you cause division to turn our models away from God. You’re stripped off all your interferences and you are powerless.
Strange and bizarre.
Here is a modeling photo of the Filipino Neo-Nazi Nationalist & Purveyor Of Soft Porn:
Maybe He's Mixed???
I always thought it funny when non-aryans promote Aryanism - bizarre.
Thanks to Steve Skojec of 1P5 fame for going into the snake pit to expose this guy more or less. Still on Skojec's part it was pure foolishness to be in contact with Perlas for so long.
Skojec almost involved his own daughter with this guy:
Anthony wrote to me once to ask if he could contact my daughter as a potential model. (At the time, I didn’t think anything of it, and figured she would say no. I was right – she ignored his request. And I’m very glad she did.)
So here's the part where Skojec claims that Perlas works for Voris for three weeks:
We didn’t interact again until I heard that he’d moved from Los Angeles to Detroit and taken a job with Church Militant. When I saw him post that it hadn’t worked out after only a few weeks, I reached out to him. He didn’t want to talk about it.
Unidentified & Perlas & Ryan Fitzgerald
Who is RYAN FITZGERALD?
Ryan Fitzgerald is a staff writer and producer for Church Militant. He's currently working on a Master's degree in Theology from Franciscan University in Steubenville. He has a BA in Film from Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles, where he majored in Screenwriting and Philosophy. After graduation, he completed the writing program at Act One in Hollywood. He's a parishioner at Assumption Grotto in Detroit and was married in Houston, his hometown, this past June.
Look with Voris obsession with the SSPX Pope Benedict & Hands off policy on Heretic Pope Francis one can readily discern that there is demonic activity at the Warehouse in Detroit.
Our Lady at La Salette said that there will be a forerunner to the Antichrist, who will raise an army of men from many Nations. Our Lady at Fatima said that a group of soldiers will one day kill the Fatima Pope, this group of soldiers belong to the army of the Forerunner to the Antichrist and the forerunner's name is Gary.....
So with the incredible confusion surrounding the now-concluded Synod, self-styled Catholic conservatives are piling on Pope Francis, scoring points and being hailed as brave and courageous for taking on the Pope.
It's a cheap way to score points. Have things accelerated under Pope Francis in a negative trajectory? Sure. But the Catholic media and blogs, comprised almost entirely of concerned Catholics without a shred of professional secular experience, were almost silent as the problem was developing before Francis.
We and others have rightfully pointed out the heresy, heterodoxy and dissent among very key players here at the Synod, placed in their roles by Pope Francis. But a very important historical question is being overlooked here: How did they rise to the levels that Pope Francis could appoint them to these posts in the first place? Let's go down a quick overview of some of the more troublesome prelates:
Cardinal Baldisseri was consecrated bishop by John Paul and placed on the powerful congregation for bishops by Pope Benedict.
Homosexualist Bruno Forte was made archbishop by John Paul in 2004 and personally laid hands on by then Cdl. Ratzinger, one of only 26 men ever made bishop by him.
Homosexualist Donald Wuerl was made bishop by John Paul and created a cardinal by Pope Benedict in 2010.
New Zealand's John Dew was made cardinal by Pope Francis, true — but he was consecrated a bishop by John Paul.
Women-deacon-supporter Canadian Paul-Andre Durocher was made bishop by John Paul II in 1997 and made archbishop by Benedict in 2011.
Essentially heretical Cdl. Marx was made bishop by John Paul in 1996, and it was Pope Benedict who placed him the position to become this troublesome by making him cardinal in 2010.
John Paul made Walter Kasper both bishop in 1989 and cardinal in 2001 — this after then Cdl. Ratzinger had already publicly crossed swords with him over the whole "Holy Communion for divorced and remarried" question, which Kapser had already been rambling on about for 30 years.
Exceedingly liberal Charles Palmer-Buckle, the only African to talk openly in favor of the Communion question, was made bishop and archbishop by John Paul.
Another exceedingly liberal African, Peter Turkson, was made bishop and archbishop by Pope John Paul.
Cardinal Oswald Gracias of India, a Pope Francis favorite, was made a cardinal by Pope Benedict.
Brisbane Australia's archbishop Mark Coleridge was raised to his high place as archbishop by Pope Benedict.
And all kinds of troublesome prelates — Roger Mahoney, homosexualist Joseph Bernardin, sex-abuse covering-up Cdl. Danneels, Theodore McCarrick — were all made cardinals by Pope St. John Paul.
And the list of prelates who trouble Catholic media types has one more name on it made cardinal by John Paul: Jorge Bergoglio.
During all these appointments by John Paul, one of his most intimate advisers was then Cdl. Joseph Ratzinger, hailed as a hero by many in the "conservative" crowd. Once he became Pope, he continued a string of very questionable and troublesome appointments. While he did appoint some good guys, as Pope Francis has, he has enough bad guys on his roll to raise some serious questions — including some of the big names at this Synod, like Baldisseri, homosexualist Forte, Wuerl and Marx, who owe their current prestige directly to Pope Benedict.
And lest anyone think this is attacking the Pope, Joseph Ratzinger isn't the Pope anymore.
And this is a question that has been completely overlooked during all the hand-wringing going on here at the Synod, in all the analysis and reporting in the Catholic media world. The whole reason we are here in October of 2015 is because of what Pope Benedict did in February of 2013: He resigned, abdicated, abandoned the office of Pope — a monumental action, not yet fully recognized for the enormous earthquake it caused in the Church.
Forget for a moment all the rumors that it was done for blackmail or financial threats or whatever; we may never know. What’s important is he did it. He surrendered to whatever forces he thought he could not resist. The Holy Father abandoned his flock, and it was that single action that has brought all this about. Francis may have lit a fuse here, but Pope Benedict laid the dynamite. He has now set in motion a series of events that the Church may take decades, or even perhaps, God forbid, centuries to recover from without the much-longed for and prayed for direct heavenly intervention.
For the past eight years, ChurchMilitant.com has been calling out the problem of these bishops and many others. Our new book Militant spells much of it out in detail. Yet many of the Catholic blogs and websites — some of whom actually told us privately to not to do that — are now more than happy to strut around damning Francis and the Synod while ignoring the real underlying cause of this chaos.
Pope Benedict's fingerprints are all over this Synod. Many of these troubling characters were put into their places by him personally and others indirectly. When everyone in the Catholic blogs and websites is calling on "clarity" from Pope Francis, where are the appeals from these same websites for Pope Benedict to say something? Surely, of all people, you would think he is disturbed and troubled at heart at all this madness — madness propagated by his men anointed at his own hand. Shouldn't he be issuing a public statement regarding heresies? He resigned because of health reasons, but going on three years later, his health seems just fine.
Contrast that to Pope John Paul, who actually had a health issue — recall that scene where, struggling mightily with Parkinson's, he issued his last blessing from the window of the Apostolic Palace shortly before his death, setting an example beyond words. When Pope Benedict was elected he said publicly, "Pray for me that I do not flee for fears of the wolves" — yet that is exactly what he did. He turned around and ran away, abandoning the flock to wolves he had let in the sheepfold.
Believe me, it's not that ChurchMilitant.com doesn't see the problems with this pontificate — but we think there's enough blame to go around that all guilty parties should be exposed, not just scoring cheap clickbait points by piling on. The reality is that whatever comes out of this Synod, many of these malformed, evil, wicked clerics are simply going to return to their dioceses or high offices and keep doing what they've been doing for years, even decades, trying to crush the authentic Faith. The Synod was an attempt to institutionalize it and make it official.
What Benedict's resignation has done is fundamentally change the papacy. It has caused a cataclysm far greater than what has followed in the wake of the Second Vatican Council. You barely hear a reference to Vatican II here at all. It's all about Pope Francis. Immediately following the Council, liberals and progressives spoke in terms of the Church as if She hadn't existed before 1965. Today, they speak in even more narrow terms: as if She'd never existed before Pope Francis. Even John Paul's 1980 heralded exhortation on the family, Familiaris Consortio, has been essentially pushed aside.
The damage of Benedict’s resignation is now coming into full focus. The Church has been reduced in the common mind to just the Pope — nothing else. What Pope Benedict did may even rise to the level of immoral. Recall that there is the history of St. Peter running out of Rome when Nero fired up the persecution. Suddenly on the Via Appia Our Blessed Lord appeared to him walking toward Rome, and Peter said to Him, Quo Vadis, Domine? "Where are you going, Lord?" And Jesus answered, "I'm going to Rome to be crucified again."
Peter got the message and turned back around, went into Rome and was martyred. That is precisely what Benedict did not do. And because of it, he has introduced an element into the papacy that may never be capable of being overcome except by another direct intervention by Our Lord. Ironically, Pope Benedict is the one who invented the term the "hermeneutic of continuity" versus the "hermeneutic of rupture" — yet he is the very one who has introduced this rupture and its resulting confusion into the papacy.
In an era where fatherhood has become so disgraced, Pope Benedict is the one who will be remembered as abandoning his children in the hour of their great need. This is the kind of analysis that Catholics need to hear, not just hand-wringing and piling on Pope Francis.
Gary is building himself up as a leader of Roman Catholic men. Gary has not yet claimed to be the Great Monarch but he constantly hints at it.
Another one that actual claims to be the Great Monarch is Eric Gajewski of TradCatKnight
Eric is a fraud:
Eric buys all his views to fool many into thinking that his site is very popular. I was fooled to some extent and I wondered why posts on his blog on Catholic spirituality etc would generate so many views. Granted he had crazy stuff like Planet X and there are many crazy people out there who like reading that crazy stuff - but why would these same crazy people read anything on Catholic spirituality or morals etc? They wouldn't. So I wondered why I didn't get the same or similar traffic on all my posts on Meditation on the Sunday Gospels or on the Passion of Our Lord and Savior. Now I know why. Eric is exposed as a fraud in the above video.
At the 32.50 mark Eric is exposed as publicly manifesting himself as the Great Monarch. This is why Monarchy is dangerous - very dangerous. Any deluded fool can claim to have royal blood and many do Eric is one of them.
No Roman Catholic in is right mind should ever cling to Monarchy as a means to restore all things in Christ. Many pretenders will arise just like Eric and claim to be this or that, when in fact they are not.
The forerunner to the Antichrist will do the same - claiming to be of Royal blood etc.
Is Eric the forerunner to the Antichrist? No, probably not. The above video should effectively shut his fraudulent operation down.
The forerunner to the Antichrist will raise an army of men from many nations who will one day kill the Fatima Pope and faithful. This army will be real - it will not be a fake Internet Army created by some hit farm in Bangladesh.
So Eric is done.
Gary Voris is still the best contender to be the actual forerunner to the Antichrist.
All frauds love Monarchy because anyone can claim to have royal blood. Don't get sucked in by the Royal blood frauds.
As for the Divinely Ordained Authority of the Holy Roman Emperor can never be a fraud or will ever deceive because that man has to be elected by the Seven Imperial Electors. And the Seven Imperial Electors are called Proclaimers of Divine Providence who will one day elect a man chosen by the Blessed Trinity.
Again Monarchist are a danger to the restoration of all things in Christ and most monarchists will be found in the camp of the forerunner to the Antichrist.
There is evil here in Rome, evil being orchestrated by sons of Satan Gary Voris>>>>>>
“A forerunner of the Antichrist, with his troops gathered from several nations, will fight against the true Christ, the only Saviour of the world. He will shed much blood and will want to annihilate the worship of God to make himself be looked upon as a God. Our Lady of La Salette 19 Sept. 1846 (Published by Mélanie 1879)
Gary the forerunner to the Antichrist is calling others the offspring of the Devil before anyone calls Gary the offspring of the Devil.
I guess if you're the first to call others names that means that no one is allow to call you by the same!!! LOL!
Gary the forerunner to the Antichrist has called these Prelates the offspring of the Devil wearing the robes of Judas:
Cdl. Lorenzo Baldisseri,
Abp. Bruno Forte,
Cdl. Donald Wuerl,
Cdl. Daneels,
Cdl. John Dew,
Abp. Paul Andre Durocher,
Fr. Thomas Rosica
That's just a partial list of who Gary considers sons of Satan.
The thing is, is that Gary himself defends the wicked actions and heretical doctrine of Pope Francis...but so do the men listed above......
One thing to notice is that the Devil is always first. It is a tool of Satan to be the first in order to fool the unwary - for instance if a wicked soul accuses some innocent soul of some crime you can be sure that the wicked soul is the one that committed the crime - its call projection. It happens more than you think - women are very good at this wicked game.
Enter Voris or Gary the forerunner to the Antichrist as I like to call him.
He publishes a book about his life so that everyone can soak up his lies, he will claim to be a saint in youth but turns into a great sinner in his later life and converts back to the faith by the prayers of his mother, and now Voris is the Great Saint sent from on high to save the Church and the World.
Voris, in case none of you are catching on, is claiming that he is the Great Monarch to save us all!
So any criticism leveled at the Great man will be considered in bad taste.
However...there is one small problem with Gary projecting himself as the Great Monarch.....Gary defends the wicked actions of Pope Francis.
There is no other proof needed than the fact that Gary defends Heretical Pope Francis - this is evidence enough that Gary is not the Great Monarch.
On the contrary Gary is the forerunner to the Antichrist spoken of by Our Lady at La Salette & Fatima.
List of reasons that Gary is the best candidate to be Forerunner to the Antichrist:
1. Defends wicked actions & heretical doctrine of Pope Francis
2. Claims that the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary has been done.
3. Claims that JPII is the Fatima Pope who is murdered in the Secret of Fatima.
4. Goes by his middle name Michael to sound more Catholic
5. Refuses to go by Gary......
6. Attacks the SSPX
7. Hair like a woman (Apoc. reference)
Will add to the list....
Question: Is Gary born of a Incubus? Sound ridiculous? Yea..I know you would rather believe that Voris might be the Great Monarch born in exile.....whatever..
Did you know that the Arch Heretic Martin Luther was born of Incubus?
Here:
There are, that write Luther to have been born of an Incubus (that is of a filthy spirit abusing women in place of man) which oppressed his mother, when she was a servant in a common bath in Germany: but I know not of what credit it is: the credit dependeth of that matron of lypsta, which reported it, and knew well his mother. Prateolus
Are Incubus real? Yes of course. St Augustine said that to deny such is heresy.
It is said that the Antichrist will be born by an incubus - Our Lady said that the Antichrist will be born of a false Virgin. Meaning that a Incubus will impregnate the false virgin
Succubus gets the sperm from a man and the Incubus plants the seed into the woman.
One question can be asked from what man was the seed taken from in order to impregnate Luther's mother?
Think about this for a moment - who is wicked enough to be the father of Martin Luther? I'm sure the seed was not just ordinary seed from some farmer. No, the seed that the devil implanted into Luther's mother had to come from a wicked man, a very wicked man.
I do know that the seed of man breaks down over time and the Incubus does not have much time in planting the seed into some women. At least that's what the opinion was back in the day.
But today we have a way of preserving sperm:
Yea those sperm banks have it all covered:
Sperm can be frozen indefinitely. There have been normal pregnancies from sperm stored frozen for 12 years. The efficacy of the freezing is questionable when it has been frozen for more than 12 years. Each individual's sperm reacts differently to the freezing process. Jul 9, 2014
So if modern man can preserve sperm for 12 years or indefinitely, then I would think that Evil Spirits can preserve sperm for a longer period. Meaning the the seed that gave birth to Martin Luther was probably seed from Judas himself! That's 1,450 year old sperm!
Same goes for the Antichrist - the seed that gives birth to the Antichrist will probably be from Judas as well.
Same goes for the Forerunner to the Antichrist Gary. If Gary is the forerunner to the Antichrist then Gary is the offspring of Judas!
Yea I know you don't want to believe such things.....but again you will believe that Gary is the long awaited Great Monarch...LOL!
“A forerunner of the Antichrist, with his troops gathered from several nations, will fight against the true Christ, the only Saviour of the world. He will shed much blood and will want to annihilate the worship of God to make himself be looked upon as a God. Our Lady of La Salette 19 Sept. 1846 (Published by Mélanie 1879)
Well it seems that the man who will raise a Ethno-Nationalist Army to murder the Fatima Pope has a sense of humor.
To remind you of the upcoming murderous event:
“J.M.J.
The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fatima, on 13 July 1917.
I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine.
After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.
Tuy-3-1-1944”.
A silly girl writer has testified to the fact that Gary makes people laugh at her birthday party....Aaaawwww... that is so cute!
I’m going to say it again: I like Mike. I consider him a friend (we have had dinners and drinks whenever we’re on the same continent and he even attended my 45th birthday party, to great hilarity all round) and I like and respect his work. I know he’s done a huge amount of good helping Catholics understand the seriousness of the crisis, and he has done some great work exposing certain prelates, in a Catholic journalistic atmosphere that is almost stifling when it comes to bishops. We don’t agree on every point, (and some of the people he works with can be a little… odd… now and then) but the points of disagreement aren’t at issue for the moment. Hilary White Read More>>>>
I wonder what Hilary will think of Gary when Gary earns the title of Forerunner to the Antichrist just after the moment when Gary shoots that arrow into the heart of the Fatima Pope:
The answer from the Church_Militant_Moderator is YES! The Consecration to the Immaculate of Mary has been done!
This is further evidence that Gary Voris and crew are heretics and Gary is the forerunner to the Antichrist:
Along with Voris' defense of wicked Pope Francis, Voris' persecution of the SSPX and those laity who attend the SSPX masses
We can now add that
Voris believes that the Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary has been done!
What new folly will Church Militant.Com embrace?
Stay tuned.
Church_Militant_Moderator:
EWTN gives a good response to this general question "Has Russia been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary" https://www.ewtn.com/expert/an... A good historical dateline is provided there.
Specifically, the Church has said that the consecration has been done and Sister Lucy appears to have confirmed this or, at least, said the consecration done has been "accepted" by Heaven. Therefore, to continue to "advocate" contrary to what the Church says in this regard is to sow division and distrust of the Church and, in effect, place Mary in opposition to the Vicar(s) of Christ.
It is inconceivable that Our Lady would ask that Catholics listen to her and judge the popes and bishops as disobedient liars for not having obeyed her, but this is the practical effect of individuals and movements organized around "The Church has not obeyed Our Lady and is lying to us that they have."
Think about it. Would Our Lady place herself above the Vicar of Christ and expect Catholics to obey her and ignore the Church? Even if it is true that popes and bishops have "disobeyed" the direct request of Our Lady (and I propose this for the sake of argument only) there is no way that Our Lady would encourage people, practically, to separate themselves from "submission to the Roman Pontiff" (part of the canonical definition of schism) and to submit to her instead. If one starts to follow Our Lady as "pope in practice," then we cease to follow the visible Church and the Vicar of Christ and create a kind of "Marian Catholic Church" in opposition to the visible "Roman Catholic Church."
Since CM does, in fact, "submit to the Roman Pontiff" and the authority of the Church, and since the Church has said that the consecration has been done, who are we (or anyone else) to say that it has not? What fruits can come from continuing to insist that the consecration has not been done beyond increased separation of Catholics from the Chair of Peter?
The Church says the consecration has been done. Sister Lucy confirmed that it has been done. Those who say it has not are already or well on their way into the dark land of schism. It is inconceivable to us that Our Lady would smile on those who have organized their lives and apostolates around "The Church has not obeyed Our Lady and is lying to us. Listen to Our Lady and ignore the Church." Church_Militant_Moderator
13 October 2015 New post on the miracle of the Sun:
Rambler • 14 hours ago Consecrate Russia to the immaculate Heart of Mary! rehtus333 Rambler • 12 hours ago It was in 1984. Russia is part of "World." Communism fell in Russia and Sister Lucy said the 1984 consecration was valid.
Rambler rehtus333 • 11 hours ago I used to think that too. But then I read into it more and I believe the full and public consecration of Russia alone must be completed.
Church Militant gives same response that yes the consecration has been done:
Church_Militant_Moderator Mod Rambler • 10 hours ago
EWTN gives a good response to this general question "Has Russia been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary" https://www.ewtn.com/expert/an... A good historical dateline is provided there.
To be specific, the Church has said that the consecration has been done and Sister Lucy appears to have confirmed this or, at least, said the consecration done has been "accepted" by Heaven. Therefore, to continue to "advocate" contrary to what the Church says in this regard is to sow division and distrust of the Church and, in effect, place Mary in opposition to the Vicar(s) of Christ.
It is inconceivable that Our Lady would ask that Catholics listen to her and judge the popes and bishops as disobedient liars for not having obeyed her, but this is the practical effect of individuals and movements organized around "The Church has not obeyed Our Lady and is lying to us that they have."
Think about it. Would Our Lady place herself above the Vicar of Christ and expect Catholics to obey her and ignore the Church? Even if it is true that popes and bishops have "disobeyed" the direct request of Our Lady (and I propose this for the sake of argument only) there is no way that Our Lady would encourage people, practically, to separate themselves from "submission to the Roman Pontiff" (part of the canonical definition of schism) and to submit to her instead. If one starts to follow Our Lady as "pope in practice," then we cease to follow the visible Church and the Vicar of Christ and create a kind of "Marian Catholic Church" in opposition to the visible "Roman Catholic Church."
Since CM does, in fact, "submit to the Roman Pontiff" and the authority of the Church, and since the Church has said that the consecration has been done, who are we (or anyone else) to say that it has not? What fruits can come from continuing to insist that the consecration has not been done beyond increased separation of Catholics from the Chair of Peter?
The Church says the consecration has been done. Sister Lucy confirmed that it has been done. Those who say it has not are already or well on their way into the dark land of schism. It is inconceivable to us that Our Lady would smile on those who have organized their lives and apostolates around "The Church has not obeyed Our Lady and is lying to us. Listen to Our Lady and ignore the Church."
Rambler Church_Militant_Moderator • 7 hours ago
I am not saying that it has not been done. I saying that it should be done the way that the Virgin Mary asked for it to be done.
Full public consecration of Russia. Not the world, not England along with Russia, but Russia specifically.
I do think that a consecration was done that included Russia. But Russia has not been Consecrated directly.
Much good has happened in regards to the consecration of the world, but the full consecration of Russia alone, as specified by Our Lady has not.
So you can argue with my position all you like, everyone, even the Pope cannot deny what I am saying and many others agree with me.
Also I watched an interview Michael Voris had with his father the other day and he seemed to make the same point I made. Also I watched an interview with Father Gabriele Amorth, former vatican exorcist, who also said the same thing.
He went on to say, that although the consecration has been accepted, God is offended that the direct consecration of Russia has not been done as the Virgin Mary requested. He then went on to say that eventually the consecration will be done in full, but it will not be until very late...
So this is not a schismatic point of view as you suggested.
Church Militant & Voris still hold that the fact that Consecration has been done.
Voris is a heretic. The Only reason Voris holds to the Consecration being done is because Voris wants you to believe that the vision of the killing of the Fatima Pope has also been completed in the person of Pope John Paul II, so that this terrible event is behind us.
As this blog has warned time and again Voris is the main candidate to be the forerunner to the Antichrist who will one day murder the Fatima Pope and faithful thus earning his title as forerunner to the Anti-Christ.
